Friday, May 31, 2013

Lost Prophets of Hinduism and India

Lost Prophets of India

Khurshid Imam
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Index

 A. Introduction
        B. Hindus / India without Prophet?
        C. Prophet Noah community does not recognize its prophet
        D. Quran, Prophet Noah and Vedas
        E. Prophet Noah, Hindu Scriptures and India
        F. Prophet Adam, Hindu scriptures and India
        G. Prophet Adam was sent to the holy land of India
        H. Hindus and Muslims are lost brothers
        I. Conclusion


A. Introduction

Quran proclaims that messenger or prophet was sent to every nation/ every community. Quran mentions 25 prophets by name. Our Hindu brethren – in India – always come up with this question:

a. Which prophet was sent to India?
b. Is God of Islam discriminatory that he had sent all messengers in and around Arab?
c. Today, India forms 17% of world population; Hindu community is one of the largest communities of the world – how come Quran is completely absent
from mentioning the name of the prophet who was sent here?

A knowledgeable Muslim will rightly say – “It is not possible that Quran will mention name and detail of thousands of prophets, else it will become the bulkiest book in the world. Who will read the book whose pages will run into millions? Quran is mainly book of guidance for humanity and by mentioning 25 prophets Quran gives us guidance. Surely every community and nation was bestowed with prophet hood. 

'We don’t know which prophet was sent to India'.

This last statement is made, depending upon the knowledge and research. Most of Muslims will make this statement. However a deeper study of Quran, Hadees (books containing words of Prophet Muhammad), history and other sources will surprise us.

Please note my beloved Hindu brethren: Most of you have the notion that Islam is a religion “founded” by Prophet Muhammad 1400 years back. Kindly clear this misconception. Neither Quran claims that Prophet Muhammad was the founder of any religion nor God says that through Quran any new religion came into existence. 
Quran tells that Prophet Muhammad was the seal of prophet (Last prophet) (Refer to Surah Ahzab 33:40) and he was not given any new religion. Prophet Muhammad revived the same old age religion of God that was previously given to all prophets.

The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah--the which We have sent by inspiration to you--and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Namely that you should remain steadfast in Religion and make no divisions therein. [Quran, Surah Shura 42:13]

There has been messengers of God in different regions in different era and all of them taught the same religion of God. This religion is called 'Sanatan' or 'Islam' or submission in Sanskrit, Arabic and English respectively.

Just like, God is beyond any culture or region or language - similarly, religion of God is not bound to any culture, region or language.

Terminologies that will be used in this article
Hadees = words of Prophet Muhammad.
Ved = God’s word as per Hinduism;
Puran, bhagwad Geeta, Ramcharitmanas = Sacred scriptures of Hinduism.


B. Hindus / India without Prophet?

All theist communities i.e. those who believe in religion and existence of God - associate themselves with their Prophets. Even though the belief regarding their prophet is distorted, yet they identify and associate themselves with him.

Community                   Book that is considered divine           Prophet

Muslims           –           Quran                                          Prophet Muhammad
Christians        –            Bible                                           Prophet Jesus
Jews                –           Old Testament                              Prophet Moses
Hindus            –            Vedas                                               ??

If you ask a common Hindu; what is the God’s word in Hinduism? Most probably, response will be  - Bhagwad Geeta or Ramayana or Mahabharata. But you have to remind - these are human written books; only Vedas are claimed to be God’s word in Hinduism. 
Vedas are considered ishwani (God’s word) or aupaurishya i.e. divine. Though every Hindu loves Shri Ram, Shri Krishna most but no one attributes Vedas being revealed to any of them. If Vedas are God’s word then there must be someone on whom it was revealed; someone who was the first recipient of the message. 

The first recipient of Vedas was the messenger or IshDut on whom the book was revealed. Unfortunately, Our country has lost its prophet in mythological stories. 

God has mentioned that for every community, messenger was sent.

a. “..For every Qaum (nation or community) there has been a warner [Quran, Surah Ra’d 13:7]

وَلِكُلِّ قَوْمٍ هَادٍ

b. “And verily, We have sent among every Ummah (community) a Messenger...” [Quran, Surah Namal 16:36]

وَلَقَدْ بَعَثْنَا فِي كُلِّ أُمَّةٍ رَّسُولًا

It will be highly surprising that no prophet was sent to India which happens to be one of the most important cradles of human civilization. India forms 17% of the world population today. Is it possible that no prophet came to india? 
May be that Prophet is lost into mythological stories.

Topic - “Does Quran gives any indication of Hindu community?”- is beyond the scope of this article.


C. Prophet Noah community does not recognize its prophet.

Out of all major communities, only Hindus have a book (claimed to be God’s word) but not a person who can be associated with the book. Some may say there were 4 rishis who were given Vedas while others will disagree and say that Ved Vyas wrote these books and some other will bring different interpretation. If you ask - "Which Prophet came to India or was given Vedas" then answer will be - "there is no concept of Prophet hood in Hinduism". 

Hindu community – as a whole does not believe in prophet.

Shocking fact is that - Community of Prophet Noah(Peace be upon him) also does not recognize him as a whole !!!. Look at this very interesting Hadees:

 “Allah's messenger said, "Noah and his nation will come (on the Day of Resurrection) and Allah will ask (Noah), "Did you convey (the Message of God)?'
He will reply, 'Yes, O my Lord!'

Then Allah will ask Noah's nation, 'Did Noah convey My Message to you?'

They will reply, 'No; no prophet came to us.'

Then Allah will ask Noah, 'Who will stand a witness for you?'
He will reply, 'Muhammad and his followers (will stand witness for me).' So, I and my followers will stand as Witnesses for him (that he conveyed Allah's Message)…………."
[Sahih Bukhari Volume 60 (Prophetic Commentary on the Quran), Hadees 14;
Sahih Bukhari Book 96 (Holding Fast to the Quran and Sunnah) Hadees 77]

Please note down some important points from the above Hadees:
    1. When Allah will ask Prophet Noah whether he conveyed the message of Islam to his people or not - response will be - 'YES'.

    2. When People of Prophet Noah will be asked whether Prophet Noah conveyed them message, then what will be the reply of his community? His community will clearly reject the idea of any Prophet coming among to themThey will, in fact, say that no prophet came among them.

    3. It means people of Noah – as a whole - don’t recognize him as a Prophet.

    4. Now, who will be witness regarding prophet Noah's claim that he came and delivered the message? Answer is : Ummat (People) of Prophet Muhammad i.e. I and you will be witness. We will bear witness that Prophet Noah did come to his people, delivered his message but his people-as a whole do not recognize him.

    Today Hindus are the only theist community who claim to have God’s word but do not attest to concept of prophet-hood. 

This Hadees provides a strong link between Prophet Noah and India. Isn't it?

Hindu brethren do not know their Prophet. They say prophet hood is not part of their faith / culture.
Prophet Noah’s people will refuse to recognize / acknowledge any Prophet coming among them. 

Prophet Noah .. India .. Hindus! Possible?

              
D. Quran, Prophet Noah and Vedas

A few observations from Quran:
1. Prophet Noah was the first Prophet with laws.

He is known as the first ba-shariat nabi i.e. Prophet who was given complete laws regarding religion.
In Indian tradition - Manu - is known as the 'law-giver'.

Look at the chronological order of prophets in the Quran - especially in context with religion / revelation. It always starts with Prophet Noah and ends with Prophet Muhammad.

We have sent you inspiration as we sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him; we sent inspiration to Abraham,  Ismail, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron and Solomon and to David We gave the Psalms. [Quran, Surah Nisa 4:163]

The same religion has He established for you as that which He enjoined on Noah--the which We have sent by inspiration to you--and that which We enjoined on Abraham, Moses and Jesus: Namely that you should remain steadfast in Religion and make no divisions therein.. [Quran, Surah Shura 42:13] 

And remember We took from the prophets their covenant, as (We did) from you (O’Muhammed), from Noah, Abraham, Moses, and Jesus the son of Mary. We took from them a solemn covenant. [Quran, Surah Ahzab 33:7]

Let’s take; for example 42:13 of Quran. The Prophets mentioned in chronicle order are:

Prophet                                 Revelation                         Today’s community

Prophet Muhammad               Quran                                    Muslims
Prophet Jesus                        Injeel                                     Christians
Prophet Moses                       Torah                                     Jews
Prophet Abraham                   Sohfa-e-Ibraheem                   Arabs/Jews
Prophet Noah                              ?                                          ?

We see that Prophet Noah is indicated as the first Messenger[with laws]. 
Moreover, from hadees [Sahi Bukhari Volume 4, Book 55, hadith 556; Sahi Bukhari Volume 6, Book 60, hadith 236] we know that Prophet Noah was the first ba-shariat nabi i.e. Prophet who was given complete Shariat i.e. laws. 

It’s interesting to see that every theist community who had God’s word are covered in above table. Hindu is the only community not mapped. At the same time, Prophet Noah is the only Prophet whose community is not known.

Can Prophet Noah be the prophet of Hindus?

Prophet Noah must belong to the oldest community or one of the oldest communities.


2. Hindu / Indian civilization – oldest civilization

Hindus have been claiming for years that they are the oldest religious community. No other community in the world claims that its religion is oldest – except Hindus. No wonder Vedas – claimed to be God’s word by Hindus - is said to be Aadi granth which means earliest revelation.

Can you match the dots? .. Prophet Noah.. Vedas ..Hindus?

Re-writing Quran, 42:13 in tabular form - is this possible?

Prophet                                 Revelation                         Today’s community

Prophet Muhammad               Quran                                    Muslims
Prophet Jesus                        Injeel                                     Christians
Prophet Moses                       Torah                                     Jews
Prophet Abraham                   Sohfa-e-Ibraheem                   Arabs/Jews
Prophet Noah                         Vedas ?                                  Hindus?

3. Does Quran give any indication towards Vedas?

Look at this ayah of the Quran:

وَإِنَّهُ لَفِي زُبُرِ الْأَوَّلِينَ

“…wa innahu lafi zuburil awwaleen
And verily it (Quran) is in earliest revelations.[Quran, Surah Shura 26:196]

Translating word Zuburil awwaleen into English; earliest revelations.
Translating word Zuburil awwaleen into Sanskrit; Aadi Granth.

Please keep in mind only Vedas are proclaimed as the earliest revelations or aadi granth. So, this ayah indicates that teachings of the Quran are present in aadi granth. 

In the name of earliest revelations we have vedas only. Do we have other option?

Is it possible that Quran is referring to Vedas in this ayah which is claimed as aadi granth by Hindus? 

Important.
Please note that - Vedas were brought into public domain just 2 centuries back and that too by efforts of western scholars. Before that, it was only with selected people and that too not in the form of printed book. Hence, when we are discussing about Vedas then it means whatever is available to us in the name of Vedas. We don't have original manuscript or unadulterated text or text that was revealed [if its revealed book]. 

At the same time, Quran 26:196 is saying that even today, there must be a holy book that is earliest and that contains teachings of Quran - no matter how much changes it has undergone. 
Which book can be mapped as mentioned in this ayah? 

We don't have any answer other than Vedas for this ayah of Quran. 
When we actually look into Vedas then we do find about tauheed (oneness of God), risalat (Prophet hood), akhrat (Life hereafter) and other aspects of Islam; though shirk is also mentioned (subject to interpretation). Its important to mention that vedas are highly subject to interpretation. 

Quran is referring to the earliest scriptures of Allah and saying that teachings of Quran are present in it. 
When we look into Vedas then we do find similarities with respect to Quran. 

One thing I would like to make clear. Some people may argue that word Zubrul awaaleen was not taken in the sense of Vedas by Sahaba (Companions of Prophet) or others. What we need to understand is that Quran is meant till qiyamah and it’s very eloquent. Every word of Quran is perfect, well balanced, conveying lot of meanings. Details on this topic is beyond the scope of this article. Word Zubrul awwaleen meant as 'earliest revelations' for earlier Muslims referring to those scriptures of Allah that were sent earlier. That was also correct. Today – in Indian context, we know that a community has been claiming that they have earliest revelations; then it is possible that Quran is referring to that particular book.

Hindus are claiming that they possess earliest revelations.

Prophet Noah is the prophet of earliest human civilization.

People of Prophet Noah will fail to recognize him – as a whole.

Today, Hindus don’t recognize their Prophet.

Can you see the pattern? Prophet Noah -- India -- Ved.


4. Idol worship, caste system, Quran and Hindus

a. Quran mentions about prophets and sins of their people. For example - people of Prophet Lot would indulge in homosexuality.
Noah community was the one that was too much involved in shirk and idol worship. Quran mentions about shirk of other community also but Noah people were so much into shirk and idol worship that God has mentioned about their 5 idols.

Nuh said: "My Lord! Surely they have disobeyed me and followed him whose wealth and children have added to him nothing but loss. And they have planned a very great plan. And they say: 'By no means leave your gods, nor leave [the gods] Wadd, nor Suwa; nor Yaghus, and Yauq and Nasr.' And indeed they have led astray many, and do not increase the unjust in aught but error." [Quran, Surah Nuh 71:21-23]

Today we find only one community wherein idol worship is rampant. Other than the idols popular among people of Prophet Muhammad, Quran mentions only about the idols of Prophet Noah's people.

Do we see a pattern : Prophet Noah and India?

b. There is an indication of another prevalent sin of Noah’s people. Look these two ayah of Quran:

But the chiefs of the Unbelievers among his people (Noah’s people) said: "We see you nothing but a man like ourselves: Nor do we see that any follow you but the meanest among us, in judgment immature: Nor do we see in you (all) any merit above us: in fact we think ye are liars!" [Quran, Surah Hud 11:27]

قَالُوا أَنُؤْمِنُ لَكَ وَاتَّبَعَكَ الْأَرْذَلُونَ

They (People of Noah who rejected his teachings) said: "Shall we believe in you when it is the meanest that follow you?" [Quran, Surah Shura 26:111]

فَقَالَ الْمَلَأُ الَّذِينَ كَفَرُوا مِن قَوْمِهِ مَا نَرَاكَ إِلَّا بَشَرًا مِّثْلَنَا وَمَا نَرَاكَ اتَّبَعَكَ إِلَّا الَّذِينَ هُمْ أَرَاذِلُنَا بَادِيَ الرَّأْيِ

The Arabic words “ardhalūna” and “arādhilunā” are used in above two ayah respectively which has been derived from the root word rā dhāl lām (ر ذ ل). Both words convey the meaning – “mean /vile/ lowest in status”. Arabic-English Lexicon by Edward William Lane gives the meaning of Arabic word rā dhāl lām (ر ذ ل) as “low, base, vile, or contemptible, in his aspect and states or circumstances ..”.  

Important to note that Quran has not used this word for any other prophet's community. It means there is a strong correlation between Prophet Noah's community and the tendency to treat some people as mean, lowest and despise them.
Above two ayah give the idea that some people were considered meanest or lowest among the people of Prophet Noah. 

People of Prophet Noah .. Considering some people as mean, lowest, dalit .. India .. Caste system?     

Possible?

Can we increase number of dots between Prophet Noah – Ved – Hindus - India?

Important: Today dalit brethren (Some people in Hinduism who are considered untouchable or lowest in status) hate 'Manu' for the reason that they think that Manu started and propagated caste system. Manusmriti - a book of Hinduism - does speak volume in favor of caste system yet we don’t know for sure who authored this book. What is 101% guaranteed is that none of prophets can give such inhumane teaching. This book is attributed to Manu but for sure; neither Jal-plavan-Manu i.e. Prophet Noah (Peace be upon him) nor swaymBhuva Manu i.e. Prophet Adam (Peace be upon him) taught this. 

On the contrary, from above two Quranic ayah it’s clear that Prophet Noah acted against the caste system and among his followers were those who were considered meanest and lowest. 


E. Prophet Noah, Hindu Scriptures and India

If a Muslim is asked about the event of Prophet Noah (Peace be upon him) and the great flood then immediate answer will be that during the time of Prophet Noah there was a great flood and it destroyed wrong doers except selected few; and this event is described in Quran, Surah Hud 11:36-44. 

If a Christian is asked about this incidence then he too will tell that Bible speaks about Noah and the great flood in great detail in Bible: Book of Genesis chapter 6, verses 9-22 and Genesis Complete 7th chapter.

The surprising fact is that if a learned Hindu is asked about the great flood and Jal-Plavan-Manu i.e. 'Manu of the great flood' then he too can Quote Matasya Puran Chapter 1 and 2 and Bhawishya Puaran Pratisarga Parva, Chapters 4-7 - and tell How God ordered Noah (mentioned as NYUH or MANU) to build a boat and put creatures into the boat and how great flood destroyed the life in Bharatwarsh.

1- Vishnu (GOD) had got a boat built by the devtas. (In other accounts, Manu was himself asked to construct the boat). When the earth was flooded, Manu (Prophet Noah) was to place all living beings in the boat and thus save them. ….. And when the waters of the flood receded, Manu (Prophet Noah) could populate the world afresh and rule over it. [Matasya Purana 1:29-35] 
Source: http://www.astrojyoti.com/matsyapurana.htm

2- “Then the seven destructive clouds would spring up from vapors... and would rain in torrents till all the seas become united into one great mass. In fact, the whole earth would be covered with one vast expanse of water, then get hold of that yonder boat and put the seed of creation and the sacred Vedas in it.” [Matasya Purana 2:10-11] 

3- “At the beginning of the re-creation of the universe which would follow the period of destruction (Caused by the Deluge / flood), I shall propagate the Vedic knowledge”. [Matasya Purana 2:14-16]

Please note that Vedas and Manu (Prophet Noah) are referred together in above two references of Matasya Puran. 

4. Once the Lord appeared in his dream and said: “My dear Nyuha, please listen, there will be devastation on the seventh day. Therefore, you have to be very quick that you make a big boat and ride in it. O chief of the devotees, you will be celebrated as a great king”. 


Then he made a strong boat which was 300 feet long, 50 feet wide and 30 feet high. (In the Bible the Ark is described as, “Its length was 300 cubits, its width was 50 cubits, it had three stories and its height was 30 cubits.”) It was beautiful and all the living entities could take shelter in it. He then himself rode in it, engaged in meditating on Lord Vishnu. 
Lord Indra called the devastating cloud named Sambartaka and poured heavy rain continuously for 40 days. The whole earth, Bharat-varsa, had merged in the water and four oceans came up together. Only Visala or Badarikasrama was not submerged. There were 80,000 great transcendentalists in Visala who joined with king Nyuha and his family. All of them were saved and everything else was destroyed. 
[Bhawishy Puran, Pratisarga Parva, Chapters Four to Seven] 
URL: https://www.astrojyoti.com/BhavishyaPurana-2.htm






Quran speaks about (Nooh used in Quran) Prophet Noah and the great flood event. 
Bible tells about (Noah used in bible) Prophet Noah and the great flood event. Hindu scriptures describe (Nyuh and Manu) Prophet Noah and the great flood event. 

Are these mere co-incidences? 

Are we telling the same – one event in different scriptures?

Do we have common root? Is it possible that the same event reached different people through different prophets?

The one and the same GOD told about this important event to different people in different era through divine revelation / prophets? 

Are we witnessing real event of Prophet Noah immersed in mythological stories in puranas?


Historical facts and observations attest very close relation between India and Prophet Noah:

“{…….. A French writer, A.J.A. Dubois, who studied Hindu religion and Indian civilization for forty years , wrote a voluminous and authoritative book - Hindu Manners, Customs and Ceremonies 


Below are a few important observations from the book.

a.“...Suffice it to remark that a Celebrated Personage, reverenced by Hindus, and known to them as MAHANUVU, escaped the calamity in an ark, in which were also the Seven Penitents. The appellation MAHANUVU is worthy of remark. It is a compound of two words-MAHA - great, and NUVU, which is undoubtedly the same as Noah”. [Page 48]

b.“It is practically admitted that India was inhabited very soon after the Deluge / flood, which made a desert of the whole world. [Page 100]

c.“It is definitely stated in the Markandeya Purana and the Bhagavata  that this event caused the destruction of all mankind, with the exception of the seven famous Rishis or Penitents whom I have often had occasion to mention, and who were saved from the universal destruction by means of an ark, of which Vishnu himself was the pilot. Another great personage, called Manuwho, as I have tried elsewhere to show, was no other than the great Noah himself. [Page 416-417]




d. The details about the event of Noah and the Deluge / flood have also been given in the Bhavishya Purana and the Matsya Purana. The word Manu has been used for a number of Hindu religious personages (It is said about Adam that from Manu’s left side shatrupa (i.e. Eve) was created. See Hanuman Prasad Potdar, Ram Charit Manas. (Gita press Gorakhpur, Ed. 15,) P. 154; but Manu who figures most in the puranasthe Vedas and other Hindu scriptures is Noah; un-doubted. Even in the Vedas the mention of Noah by the name Manu is at 75 places.

e. The English translator-commentator of the Vedas, Griffith writes in explaining the word Manu, in one of the mantras: “Manu is the man par excellence, or the representative man and father of the human race, regarded as the first institutor of sacrifices and religious ceremonies.” This explanatory note is in Griffith’s translation of The Rigveda in Mandal 1:sukt 13: Mantr 4

e. Besides these references of Noah in the Vedas and the purans, I am presenting here yet another authentic proof of the affiliation of Hindu race with Noah. Generally speaking, the relation between a race and its prophet can be established by the calendar which, in one way or the other, starts with the prophet himself. For example, Muslims count their calendar from Prophet Muhammad’s Hijrah (Migration from Mecca to Madina), and the Christians theirs, from the departure of Jesus. Like-wise Hindus count the time of their main events from Noah’s times, and, thereby, count the period that elapsed since the Deluge / flood in terms of sixty years as one year.

Dubois writes “......the commencement of the true era of Hindus, that is to say, of their Kali-yuga, dates from about the same time as the epoch of the Deluge / flood-an event clearly recognized by them and very distinctly mentioned by their authors, who give it the name of Jala-pralayam, or the Flood of waters......And curiously enough, in all their ordinary transactions of life, in the promulgation of all their acts, in the their monuments, Hindus date everything from the subsidence of the flood...... Their public and private events are always reckoned by the year of the various cycles of sixty years which have elapsed since the Deluge / flood.” [Page 416-417]…….}”

[“Now or never”-English translation of “Agar Ab bhi Na Jaage To”; Page 14-15]

There are several other detailed proofs from Quran and other sources that prove beyond doubt about the event of Noah and great flood in India. For details kindly refer to the above book.

One of my relatives – from my wife’s side - hails from bottom most part of India; i.e. in Rameshwaram, Tamilnadu; his family last name is “Noohu”. Any association between Noah and south India?

Starting point of Noah flood:

{ …. We know from the Qur’an that after Noah’s deluge the Ark of Noah came to rest upon (Mountain) Al-Judi which is located at Kurdistan in Iraq. From the Bible we know that his boat came to rest upon Ararat (Mountain) range. (Judi is a mount of the Ararat range). But commentators have still not been able to say, in which part of the world Noah preached after the Ark came to rest. It has also not been found where Noah was for 600 years prior to Deluge. The Torah merely states that after the Deluge, Noah and his companions assembled together in Babel..

The Qur’an says that water started gushing forth from the Tanur and it was the beginning of the deluge: 

“(Thus it was) till, when our commandment came to pass and the Al-Tanur gushed forth water. We said: ‘Load there-in two of every kind, a pair (the male and the female).....” [Quran, Surah Hud 11:40]

‘Tanur’ is not an Arabic but a Persian word used in the sense of an ‘Oven’ in which bread are baked. Most of the commentators have used it in the same sense and only few have taken it to mean the surface of the earth: which means that water gushing forth from the surface of the earth. But in the Qur’an ‘Al’ is used before the word ‘Tanur’ which implies ‘a particular Tanur’. Let us see
explanations of the scholars in this regard.

“If it is said that the word Tanur has a prefix ‘Al’ (used for the definite article in Arabic) then it is most probable that Noah already knew it. Hasan Basri reports that the Tanur was made of stone and Eve used to bake bread in it. Then this Tanur was possessed by Noah and he had been told: ‘Once you see water gushing forth from the Tanur, embark along with your companions in the Ark.”

“That this Tanur was of Adam has also been stated by Muhammad Naim Moradabadi in his commentary of the Qur’an

Earlier we have quoted the statement of Ibne Abbas from Tafsire Fath’ul Qadir that the Tanur of Adam was in India. Let us look at it from a different perspective. 

While collecting together various facts about the word ‘Tanur’, Showkani has written “.....the eighth saying is that it is a place that exists in India.” [Tafsir Fat’hul Qadir, Vol II, P. 474.]

It won’t be out of place to mention here that when I searched the word in Indian Railway timetable, I found that a place called Tanur is in Kerala and when I attempted to locate it in the map I found the place Tanur located at the sea shore in the district Malappuram of Kerala. It is on the western shore of India, separated from Arabia by the Arabian ocean. In the light of the above discussed legends can it be supposed that it is the same place where from Noah’s Deluge started, as has been illustrated in the Quran? It correlates all other sayings about Tanur, concluding that the water had started gushing forth from the Tanur situated at the sea shore and the same is called ‘The Tanur of Adam’.
…}
[“Now or never”-English translation of “Agar Ab bhi Na Jaage To”; Page 21-22]

Above passages also explain why we hear stories of Prophet Noah in Mesopotamia or Iran - Iraq civilization.


F. Prophet Adam, Hindu scriptures and India

1. Adam – The first human being – the first Prophet – the first Man

 “..All are progeny (children) of Manu (Adam)…” [Rigveda 1:45:1]

“O children of Adam.. ”[Quran Surah Araf 7:26-27,31,35,172; Surah isra 17:70; Surah yasin 36:60]

Let me remind you that in Hindu tradition MANU is a title given to 14 great personalities. Two prominent of them are:

Svayambhuva Manu  = Manu who was created without parents=Prophet Adam(Peace be upon him)
Jal-Plavan-Manu = Manu of the great flood = Prophet Noah (Peace be upon him)

It is belief of Muslims and Christians that God created Adam as the first person. And thereafter Eve (or Hawwa) was created as his spouse and from them human beings originated.

O Mankind! We have created you from single pair of male and female…” [Quran Surah Hujrat 49:13]

يَا أَيُّهَا النَّاسُ إِنَّا خَلَقْنَاكُم مِّن ذَكَرٍ وَأُنثَىٰ

This same event is described in allegorical language in Hindu scripture.
Brahma accordingly created two beings from his body, one was male and the other was female. The male half was named Svayambhuva Manu and the female half was named Shatarupa.”

Matasya Puran describes in allegorical term that Brahma made two parts of his body and formed two person – one part formed was male known as Svayambhuva Manu and other part formed was female by name Shatarupa. [See Hanuman Prasad Potdar, Ram Charit Manas.(Gita press Gorakhpur, Ed. 15,) P. 154]

Please note - The word Brahma has been used for Adam in Hari Vansh Puran.

When a Muslim reads the above statement, he immediately realizes that this incidence is about creation of Prophet Adam and Hazrat Hawwa (Spouse of Adam). They both were created in the beginning and Puran / Hindu scripture is referring to their creation.

Similarly when a Christian reads the above passage, he can understand that this even is about the creation of Adam and Eve which is also mentioned in bible. Refer to Bible, Book of Genesis 2:7-22

Is this just co-incidence?

2. Adam: Sanskrit origin?
There has been debate on the meaning and origin of word ADAM. Scholars 
and researches have tried vaguely to prove Adam being Arabic word or Hebrew
word. Probably their attention was not drawn towards the Sanskrit language.
According to the Sanskrit Dictionary, adim means “beginning” or “first”. 
Can it be said that Word Adam refers to the first man?

Is it difficult to understand why people in Indian peninsula refer to human being as AADMI?

Aadi .. Adim.. Adam ? Possible?

Also see the name “Nyuh” or “Nooh” in the Sanskrit dictionary. It means 'boat'.




Prophet Noah is strongly associated with the great flood and ark / boat.

Noah is Prophet of Ark/boat.

3. Hindu Scriptures and Prophet Adam

Also see some Shlokas (ayah) from the BhavishyaPurana given by Pandit Ved Prakashs’ book- Vedon aur Puranon Ke Adhar Par Dharmik Ekta Ki Jyoti -

Adam and Eve took birth from Vishnu’s (God’s) mud. In the Eastern part of the Paradise, Parmeshwar (God) had constructed a big and beautiful forest spreading over an expanse of 4 Kos (eight miles). Adam’s impatience to see his wife led him to see Eve under the forbidden tree. At once Satan appeared there in the guise of a snake. This cunning enemy cheated Adam and Eve, made them violates the commandment of Vishnu (One of attribute of God), and the husband took the forbidden fruit that led both of them to this terrestrial universe. Both of them sustained by means of the leaves of the wild fig. Subsequently a number of children were born to them, and all of them were called MalechhAdam lived for 930 years”.

In these Shlokas word Adam figures as Adam, Eve as Haw’yawati , Paradise as Pradan Nagar (inhabitation of Rewards) and for Satan Kali. Please note – word for Eve here is Hawyawati which is similar to word Hawwa that muslims use for spouse of Prophet Adam. 

Is this co-incidence?

Let us read this event from another source – which also presents same picture:
“In the eastern side of Pradan city (city of reward i.e. paradise) where there is a big God-given forest, which is 16 square yojanas in size. The man named Adama was staying there under a Papa-Vriksha or a sinful tree and was eager to see his wife Havyavati (Eve or hawwa). The Kali purusha (The Satan) quickly came there assuming the form of a serpent. He cheated them and they disobeyed Lord Vishnu. The husband ate the forbidden fruit of the sinful tree.”
Source:      http://www.astrojyoti.com/bhavishyapurana-2.htm

स्वर्गलोक से समस्त मानवजाति के पिता का आगमन धरती पर हुआ।उनका नाम आदम था और उनकी पत्नी का नाम हव्वा।

‘‘आदमो नाम पुरूषः पत्नी हव्यवती तथा‘‘          (भविष्य पुराण-प्रतिसर्ग पर्व 4, 18)
अनुवाद---   आदम नाम का पुरूष तथा पत्नी का नाम हव्यवती था।

Both Christians and Muslims can associate themselves with the above mentioned event of Adam. Quran mentions about this event -- Adam-Eve living in paradise, asked not to approach a particular act, then Satan mislead them – in Quran, Surah Baqrah 2:35-36.

Similarly Bible describes this event in Bible, Book of Genesis, Chapter 2: 15 Chapter 3: 1-7.

Again same event – almost same description in three different scriptures. 

Can there be a common source [God or Prophets] for these three cases?

Was there some divine source in India – in the form of messenger and revelation – the traces of which can be found in above described stories?

Vedas mention about Prophet Adam, Prophet Noah and Prophet Muhammad.
Prophet Adam was the first person, first prophet who came before Prophet Noah so it’s not surprising that he was mentioned in Vedas.

Prophet Muhammad was the last prophet and he is mentioned in previous scriptures of God so it’s also not surprising that he is mentioned in Vedas. 

What is surprising is that no prophet after Prophet Noah is mentioned in Vedas. What does it indicate? Does it indicate that Vedas were contemporary to Prophet Noah? In other words – Vedas were given to Prophet Noah?


G. Prophet Adam was sent to the holy land of India?

1. Muhammad ibn Sa'd ibn Mani' al-Baghdadi or Ibn Sa'd (Arabicابن سعد‎), born in the year 168AH/784CE) and died in 230AH/845CE wrote Kitab Tabaqat Al-Kubra which was a compendium of biographical information about famous Islamic personalities in 8 volumes.

He (lbn Sa`d) said: Hishám Ibn Muhammad Ibn al-Sa'ib al-Kalbi informed us on the authority of his father, he on the authority of Abu Salih, he on the authority of Ibn 'Abbas; he said: Adam was cast down in India and Eve at Juddah. Then he came in her search and reached Jam'a; then Eve joined him, and so the place was known as al-Muzdalifah, and they had come together at Jam'a so it was known as Jam'a. [Ibn Sa’d, AL-TABAQAT AL-KABIR, Volume 1, Parts 1.4.3]

2. Adam was sent from the Paradise…. He was cast down on a mountain in India known as Nawdh and Eve cast at Juddah. ... [Ibn Sa’d, AL-TABAQAT AL-KABIR, Volume 1, Part 1.3.42]

3.  “Al - Hassan said that Adam descended in India…. Ass'ady related that Adam descended.. in India..”. Stories of the Prophets; Al-Imam ibn Kathir

4. At-Tabarani, Abu Nu'aim and Ibn Asakir all related from Abu Hurairah (ra) that the Messenger of Allah (saws) said "Adam (as) descended in India." And At-Tabarani related the following narration from Abdullah ibn Umar (ra): When Allah made Adam (as) descend, He made him descend in the land of India. He then went to Makkah and afterwards went to Ash-Shams, which is where he died.

5. कुरआन के प्रसिद्ध भाष्यकार इब्ने कसीर ने मुस्नद  अब्दुर्रज़्ज़ाक़ को उद्धृत करते हुए अपने भाष्य में लिखा है कि
‘‘आदम भारत की भूमि पर उतरे थे। उनका क़द बहुत लम्बा था।‘‘

ईशदूत मुहम्मद के सत्संगिंयों तथा अन्य मुस्लिम संतों और इतिहासकारों की एक बड़ी संख्या से यहीउल्लिखित है कि पृथ्वी के पहले मानव नेजो ईश्वर के पहले दूत भी थेअपना पहला क़दम भारत में रखा। 
उन्होंने अपनी संतान में ईश-प्रदत्त सनातन धर्म (अरबी भाषा में दीन- क़य्यिम) का प्रचार  प्रसार किया और बाद में समय समय पर संसार के विभिन्न भागों में ईशदूतों ने उसी एकईश्वरीय धर्म को पुनर्जीवित किया।

आदम या आदिम शब्दजिसका अर्थ है ‘‘सबसे पहला‘‘, भारतीय मूल का होना भी यही सिद्ध करता है कि आदि मानव भारत में उतरा। उसी को बाद में भारतीय साहित्य में आदि मनु या स्वयंभू मनु कहा गया।

स्वायंभू मनु अरू सतरूपा।जिन्ह तें भै नरसृष्टि अनूपा।।
दंपत्ति धरम आचरण नीका। अजहुँ गाव श्रुति जिन्ह कै लीका।।
(रामचरित मानसदो. 141, चौ. 1)



अर्थात स्वायम्भूव मनु और उसकी पत्नी शत्रूपा जिन से मनुष्यों की यह अनुपम सृष्टि हुईइन दोनों पति पत्नी के धर्म और आचरण बहुत अच्छे थे आज भी वेद जिनकी मर्यादा का गान करते हैं।

In the above Hindi Quotation – Ramcharitmanas – revered book of Hinduism speaks about Adam, and his wife Hawwa.

It is important to mention that hadees speaking about Prophet Adam’s descent in India has been declared weak by Muhaddesseen (those who collect Hadees); but few points that are important are:

a) We don’t find any Sahi Hadees contradicting this.
b) Weak / dhayeef Hadees does not mean unauthentic but absence of a few chain of narrations; lesser number of people narrating Hadees etc.
c) Moreover we have seen lot of other proofs and will see further that gives strong indication towards Prophet Adam being in India.

6. Adam’s peak

There is a big foot-print in Sri-Lanka which is revered by people from different faith. Hindus, Muslims, Christians, Buddhist – all have great respect and honor for this foot print as they correlate it with their religion. It is a 1.8 meters (5 ft 11 in) rock formation near the summit, which in Buddhist tradition is held to be the footprint of the Buddha, in Hindu tradition that of Shiva and in Muslim and Christian tradition that of Adam, or that of St. Thomas.

Muslim researchers and Scholars have time and again attested to the belief that prophet Adam descended to India and lived here. India was the blessed land where human civilization started.

a. Prophet Hazrat Syedina Adam Alaihis salatus salaam’s Peak (Famous as Adam’s Peak) – The First Foot Mark on Earth by Hazrat Adam (Alaihis Salaam)

Jutting sharply skyward from the lush jungles of southwestern Sri Lanka is the 7362 foot (2243 meter) peak of Sri Pada, the 'Holy Footprint'. Also called Adam’s Peak, the mountain has the unique distinction of being sacred to the followers of four of the world's major religions: Hinduism, Buddhism, Christianity and Islam. Long before the development of these religions, however, the mountain was worshiped by the aboriginal inhabitants of Sri Lanka, the Veddas. Their name for the peak was Samanala Kanda; Saman being one of the four guardian deities of the island. For Hindus, the name of the mountain is Sivan Adi Padham, because it was the world-creative dance of the god Shiva that left the giant footprint (5 feet 7 inches by 2 feet 6 inches). According to Buddhist traditions from as early as 300 BC, the real print is actually beneath this larger marking. Imprinted on a huge sapphire, it was left by the Buddha during the third and final of his legendary visits to Sri Lanka. When Portuguese Christians came to the island in the 16th century they claimed the impression to be the footprint of St. Thomas who, according to legend, first brought Christianity to Sri Lanka.



7. Adam bridge

Last, but not least is the bridge connecting India and Sri-Lanka. It is popularly known as Adam’s bridge. Some of our Hindu brethren have started making claim that this bridge was built by Shri Ram and his Vaanar-Sena.

Wikipedia says – “Adam's Bridge also known as Rama's Bridge or Rama Setu is a chain of limestone shoals, between Pamban Island, also known as Rameswaram Island, off the southeastern coast of Tamil Nadu, India, and Mannar Island, off the northwestern coast of Sri Lanka. Geological evidence suggests that this bridge is a former land connection between India and Sri Lanka.”

Geologists have strong view that this path – Adam’s bridge – was formed naturally without any human intervention.
Also please note that it’s very difficult – as of today – to estimate the date of existence of Prophet Adam. Was it 5000 year, 50,000 year or 1 million year? We don’t know for sure. But one thing that we know from geography is that map of the world has not been same throughout history. 

Map of India and Sri-Lanka was not exactly same thousands or millions of years back – as it is today. Most probably – India and Sri-lanka was one single part initially. Geologists suggest that initially, whole land was joined together and was one single land – known as super-continent and gradually formation of continents took place and continents started drifting away from each other.

What was map of India and Saudi Arab during early period of human habitation? This is an interesting topic which is beyond the scope of the article.
But at least – we have strong indication that when Adam descended on earth then India and Sri-Lanka were not as distant as today. This region was the blessed land where first human being came.


H. Hindus and Muslims are lost brothers

It is possible that one would not be satisfied with one or some proofs presented in the article citing it not to be – very authentic; however one cannot ignore large numbers of proofs presented from various sources (Quran, Hadees, Ved, Puran, History, Tradition and culture) all indicating a very strong connection between Prophet Noah, Prophet Adam and India. Moreover we don’t find the contrary; i.e. we don’t have proofs regarding these Prophets coming to some other part of world.

The vague picture behind the dirt of history is the picture of a great nation, a great civilization, the cradle of human civilization, the blessed land of India – losing pure religion into mythological stories; forgetting its blessed past; making hundreds of gods; forgetting its Prophets….. traces of which can be found even today in various ways.

Hindus and Muslims are lost brothers.

{…… “A. Hindus are the earliest race with Shari’at (the Revealed Law) and Muslims the last and God’s wisdom has assembled them together in one country, India.

B. All the ancient temples and mosques in India have been constructed facing Ka’aba. Dubois writes in his book: “The structure of the large temples, both ancient and modern, is everywhere the same..... Their architectural monuments, such as they exist today....... the entrance of the great pagodas..... Faces the east, a position which is observed in all their temples, great and small.” [Hindu Manners, Customs and Ceremonies. Page 579.]


Muslims know the reason of their mosques being in this direction, towards Ka’aba, but Hindus do not. Different people give different explanations but no one has got the factual knowledge. May it be due to their old association with Ka’aba a fact which they have absolutely forgotten now? 


The customs have still remained where as the reality is lost.
Even the pyre of Hindus, like the graves of Muslims, is in the North-South direction.

C. Muslims circumambulate Ka’aba seven times during Haj and Umrah and Hindus, at the time of marriage, take pledge after making seven rounds around fire. [Also, Hindus circumambulate around temple / deities]




D. The attire Muslims use at the time of Haj, consists of the two pieces of unstitched cloth. For thousands of years Hindus too have been wearing the similar kind of dress at the time of visiting the places of pilgrimage. This dress is considered so sacred by them that in its changed version their men have been using it in the form of ‘Dhoti’ and women in the form of ‘Sari’ even in their diurnal life.

E. At the time of Haj and Umrah it is compulsory for Muslims to cut hair and better to shave it. Hindus too have been shaving off their hair at the time of pilgrimage for thousands of years.

F. While performing Haj or Umrah when Muslims are in Ahram (the holy dress) their men are not allowed to wear such shoes as would cover their insteps. During these days Hawai Chappals are used so that only two fillets remain on the insteps and no difficulty is caused while walking also. While on pilgrimage Hindus have always been using filletless [khadaun] wooden sandals having only a peg like thumb on them.

 G. Muslims name the child on A’qiqah (Muslim ceremony of shaving the head of a newly born child on the seventh day after birth and a sacrifice made on that day) and shave his head. Hindus from the early beginning shave the head of the baby at a similar occasion, called by them Namkaran Sanskar.

H. Can you even imagine that Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) had borrowed (God forbid) these manners and customs from Hinduism 1400 years ago? The fact is that this race has an old affiliation with ka’aba and they are the only religious community in the world that has still retained its traditions even in the form of meaningless rituals. If Noah had given these customs connected with Ka’aba to his people, then Moses and Jesus too would have given to theirs. With the passage of time, the truth about Ka’aba has been lost. While various other races have lost these related customs too, it (Hindu race) is the only race that has still retained them in one or the other form. 

There are hundreds of identical examples which I am not quoting here for fear of prolonging this discussion, but it must be clearly understood that the unique and precious quality of this race is that if their lost truths are revived back for them, then their understanding of Islam will be easier as compared to other races. The defect of ignoring the reality at the cost of rites has already crept in even among Muslims.
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[“Now or never”-English translation of “Agar Ab bhi Na Jaage To”; Page 19-20]




Regarding Prophet Muhammad, Prophet Jesus, Prophet Adam, Prophet Noah and details of the great flood etc and Hindu Scriptures / India; Kaaba in Hinduism; association of India with Kaaba; Ved and its exact status; Are Hindus referred in Quran; numerous other similarities between Islam and Hindu scriptures – kindly refer to the book “Agar ab bhi na jaage to” / “Now or Never” mentioned in the last part of article. It is available in English, Hindi and Urdu.


I. Conclusion

1. A general belief is that Quran / Islam is silent about any prophet in Indian Peninsula. Hindu brethren argue why Allah did not send any Prophet/messenger to India?
2. Hindus don’t associate themselves with any Prophet.
3. Word of Prophet Muhammad tells us that people of Prophet Noah will not recognize him on the day of judgment; they will not acknowledge that any Prophet came among them.
4. Hindu brethren claim that they are the oldest civilization. They possess the oldest revealed book Vedas. Quran gives several clues regarding Prophet Noah being the prophet of first human civilization.
5. Quran, hadees, Hindu scriptures, history, observations make sure that Prophet Noah was sent as messenger in India, the great flood started here, wrong-doers got destroyed. 
6. Prophet Adam was also sent to India.
7. India and Hindus still maintain several tradition and practices that tells us that the pure and original Sanatan Dharam i.e. Islam started from this pavitr (sacred) land.

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Important Note: This article is heavily based on the revolutionary work of Maulana Shams Naved usmani (May God bless him) - authored by Allama Syed Abdullah tariq Sahb (May God bless him) in - the book “Agar Ab Bhi Na Jaage to”. 

1. Download the original book – in Urdu - “Agar Ab Bhi Na Jaage to”

2. Download the English Translation – “Now or Never”:

3. Download the Hindi Translation - “Agar Ab Bhi Na Jaage to”

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50 comments:

  1. They talk about Muhammad being mentioned in the Hinduic scripts. Even few logics are also presented. But the thing is they know not Hinduism in deep.

    Do you know why a horse has its one leg in the air while its three legs in the ground? ...
    I bet no one does... The four legs of the horse represents the four Vedas (Rig, Sam, Yajur and Atharva Vedas).
    Here's the truth ... Ved Vyas was only the knower of Rig Veda, Sam Veda and Yajur Veda except for the Atharva Veda.
    Atharva Veda was never explained by anyone... I mean none, not even Vyas! So, one of the few tasks of Kalki becomes - to explain the knowledge of Atharva Veda (symbollically - the fourth leg of Kalki's horse).

    I'm saying this because Prophet Muhammad had never ever explained the knowledge Atharva Ved in the Mecca, or did he? Please, ask this question to those who claim that Prophet Muhammad to be Kalki.

    But why are the leaders presenting "Muhammad" as "Kalki"? ... You know Why? ... cuz they don't know who Kalki is ... It is just their hunch! ... Yeah, few similarities are presented but I think that isn't fully sufficient to prove that Muhammad is Kalki.

    But on the other hand, (according to my perspective, the perspective that I had developed on my own from the wisdom of Mahamati Prannath), Rasul Muhammad is partially Kalki (in one way)!!! ... Do you wanna know why? ... Then, please read Alif Lam Mim. Alif Lam Mim is
    the Kalki of Hindus!!! And not even the Hindus or the Muslims ever knew of this fact!!!
    Rasul Muhammad's spirit was also present in Kalki (or Mahamati Prannath)!!

    And Mahamati Prannath is Kalki because he had explained the Atharva Veda in its original sense!!! Thus, by explaining Atharva Veda, Mahamati Prannath (the Kalki) has ridden his horse!

    Also download the biography of Mahamati Prannath by clicking here, and read it for yourself if you don't believe me a bit!!!

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  2. Also, if you have noted Hindu women, you can slightly connect it with Islamic "hijab'. I've always wondered why the Hindu cultures in the North cover their head with dupatta. Moreover, they cover their head in Kovils (worship place). They follow the same rule Muslims are obliged for many years. Almost in all religions, including Christianity, you find old paintings of women covering their head. All in all, I find the covering in every nation and religion. If you closely observe, the dress code itself can suggest how Islam has traveled all over the globe.

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  3. nice article with lots of facts...thanks for putting them together.

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  4. full of bakwaas ..................................its not strange if Islam have some stories similar to Hinduism because Hinduism is the oldest religion of the world .................so nothing strange if other newborn religions have copied there things from it.................

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    1. That is where you are mistaken. Islam is not newborn. Allaah's worship always existed before the advent of Islam. I hope you know arab chirstians, arab jews and sabians all have GOD name Allaah. Also Ibrahim Alayhe Assalam built the holy KAABA for the worship of Allaah not for idol worship which was later filled with idols by the idol worshipers of that time. But later Muhammad PBUH Recaptured it and its now worship place only for Allaah.

      There is a reason lots of people call your hindu practices as weird and nonsense, don't mind but that is the reality. cow worship, tree worship, drinking piss. does that really make sense? come out of your religious circle for a moment and think rationally. why only hindus need to do this, why not christians, jews, muslims who are equally good in the world not affected by not doing those practices?? Has your GOD made separate physiques and laws for different worshipers?
      No, the rational logic is the GOD and the system of nature is the same for everyone.
      Why do we not get punished by nature for eating meat if cow is so sacred?

      Bro, leave the circle of your religious practices for sometime, be neutral, observe the world and think rationally.

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    2. The ppl who dont want to know their own creator and want to live a deluded life leave them alone brother.our duty as muslims is only to warn them. .n ppl who hate islam will always try to blame us and our Prophet sallallahu alaihi wasallam. .forget them. . Leave them alone in their lurch because"Allah guides whom he wills"

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  5. Subhanallah....!!!
    This a good article which open a way thinking about the similarities and resemblances of Hinduism and Islam..Jazakallah for the information and Insha Allah Let the whole world know the true facts..

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  6. It is an awesome article that must be read by every Hindu & Muslim................

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  7. Iam really shocked after reading this article....so many similarities between hindus and muslims.

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  8. I read the story of the sword Asi on quora, the sword Mahadev as Rudra used to slay the giant Asura race (Daityas and Danavas). He punished the goat headed Daksha (son of Brahma) and Daksha might be the inspiration for Satan/Devil. Shiva is known as god of gods Devon Ke Dev. Shiva's union with Shakti is represented by the 6 pointed Star known as Shaktakona and is used to represent his son Murugan (who is like arch angel michael and commander in chief of army of gods, the peacock angel). Shiva is shown an emerging from the cosmic pillar of fire. Yadavas and Yahudas are connected. Krishna ordered to worship the golden cow surabhi at Diwali and surabhi gave birth to many golden calves called Kapila cows. Jews too have some gold cow. Krishna's bald eagle garuda is horus of egypt. Horus' brother Seth rides sun god Ra's chariot. Garuda's brother aruna rides Surya's chariot. The sphinx of egypt can be seen in Shiva temples as Purushamriga worshipping the pillar of fire Lingam.

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  9. Dragons are not from Europe. It is from India. It is known as Yali and statues of dragon riders can be seen in temples in India. There are different types called Makara Yali (goat dragon), Yennai Yali (elephant dragon), Simma Yali (lion dragon) etc.

    Gradua slaying the giant Nagas (like dragons) is the inspiration for St. Geroge slaying dragons and the early images of St. George was with a bird's head.

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  10. The Egyptian book of the dead is associated with Horus and Garuda Purana is associated with Garuda. Garuda purana tells the jorney of soul after death. See, they are the same, Horus and Garuda.

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  11. But they say Noah's ark found in turkey

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  12. But they say Noah's ark found in turkey

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  13. Its true
    "Manuha" was first Man of Hinduism created by "Barhma" or "Creator" as per Hindu Scriptures
    Ma+Nuha = "Nuha"

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  14. Decode hindu mythology is an interesting blog

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  15. Vaivasvata Manu ancestor of Rama was a part of earth which is present day South India. He is the current Manu of current Manavantara. Manu is regarded as the "King of Humans or Manavas" So you see the greatest human of present age is a South Indian, a Dravidian and he is the ancestor of Rama and everyone else. There is no Aryan Dravidian division !!!

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  16. What ever. Finally i would say. Idol worship is nonsense. Once humans get rid of it n understand the basics of religion they can come to right path

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  17. it was a very important information to hindus and all the people

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  18. Very interesting! I actually came to this blog looking for any parallels between Prophet Hud and the punishment of the Aad mentioned in the Quran, and the Indra - Krishna - Govardhan Hill myth. Have you written anything on that?
    Following of my blogposts might be of interest:
    http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/06/mission-of-messengers.html
    http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2015/11/mission-of-messengers-iii.html
    http://signsandscience.blogspot.com/2014/12/the-first-humans.html

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  19. Its is a very interesting information which you have shared. Also it is very interesting to note the similarities in the rituals followed by Hindus and Muslims. May the almighty guide us all to the right path.

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  20. you type kumari kundam in google u will find the oldest and mother of all religions is hindusim

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  21. Youry article is clearly religiously motivated and filled with superriority complex of abrahmaic faiths yes fath not reality and on the top of it even with your own dumb theories not facts at all i am a science student dont even read myhologies or history linguistics etc even i can see with just common sense

    1)Hindus dont belive in the fakeass concept of prophet at all leave aside questioning

    2)God of islam is imagineary like all others discrimanatery you know that better .

    a)allah didnt even knew that there exist a continent of america take it.

    b)allah didnt even knew that there existed australia and newzeland cause simply creators of allah adam eve god Yahweh didnt knew about it .its a matter of fact

    3)hindus dont even belive in the concept of prophet there are hunderds of other religions as well so there is no need of phophet even only if you had acyually knew about hindus at all even slightest .Hence your Point C is already invalid .
    To hindus gods word come directly from himself when he comes to earth not by humans at all.

    4)about indian civilization huh . Claims dosent prove anything at all but invites scrutiny vedic religion is not accepted by anyone as oldest leave aside historians .I dont know which historions do you read you are very funny .Oldest religon is Recent dating of the earliest known archaeological sites on the Australian continent - using thermo-luminescence and other modern dating techniques - have pushed back the date for Aboriginal presence in Australia to at least 40,000 years. Some of the evidence points to dates over 60,000 years old way older than islam or hindu .

    5) All ancient religions worshipped idols be it mayans ,egyptains taoist ,shinte etc all hindus are no exception .cast system had existed worldwide just do some basic research dont make a fool of yourself e.g Yemeni caste system
    In Yemen there exists a caste-like system that keeps Al-Akhdam social group as the perennial manual workers for the society through practices that mirror untouchability.[13] Al-Akhdam (literally "servants"; Khadem being plural) is the lowest rung in the Yemeni caste system and by far the poorest.

    The Khadem are not members of the three tribes (Bedouin, Berber, and Rif) that comprise mainstream Arab society. They are believed to be of Ethiopian ancestry. Some sociologists theorize that the Khadem are descendants of Ethiopian soldiers who had occupied Yemen in the fifth century but were driven out in the sixth century. According to this theory the al-Akhdham are descended from the soldiers who stayed behind and were forced into menial labor as a punitive measure.

    The Khadem live in small shanty towns and are marginalized and shunned by mainstream society in Yemen. The Khadem slums exist mostly in big cities, including the capital, Sana’a. Their segregated communities have poor housing conditions. As a result of their low position in society, very few children in the Khadem community are enrolled in school and often have little choice but to beg for money and intoxicate themselves with crushed glass.[14]. A traditional Arabic saying in the region goes: “Clean your plate if it is touched by a dog, but break it if it’s touched by a Khadem. Though conditions have improved somewhat, the Khadem are still stereotyped by mainstream Yemenese society, considering them lowly, dirty, ill-mannered and immoral[14].

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    For centuries, through the modern times, the majority regarded Cagots of western France and northern Spain as an inferior caste, the untouchables. While they had the same skin color and religion as the majority, in the churches they had to use segregated doors, drink from segregated fonts, and receive communion on the end of long wooden spoons. It was a closed social system. The socially isolated Cagots were endogamous, and chances of social mobility non-existent.
    6)ADMI or aadmi is a urdu word not hindi.hindi word is manav or manusheya or sanskrit m done here you dont even know this basic or you willingly speaking lies for your theory

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    1. If you don't want to believe, it is up to you. Slog for 100s of years and you will still feel complicated. If you can believe that you are called as human because you have 2 legs and 2 hands and a brain that works, you need to also look into similarities seen around the world. Just because your point of view does not match with the research above, it makes no sense of you to push facts that history has only uncovered today. You my be better watching harry potter which is good for you.

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    2. Well said Islamist always speculate and dorevtail thing in their favours

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    3. continents not being explored by muslims does not necessarily mean Allaah did not know it. This is illogical argument. Maybe Prophets had visited those regions, how do you know? Do you have the full hisotry of mankind at your hand? or did your hindu worshipers visited australia, usa as you claim you are the oldest race. by this logic it sounds like hindus are at more ignorance than muslims.

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  22. Here we go again, another fanatic who wants to prove which religion is right or wrong. Dear Khurshid, one question to you is that if you believe other religions or in specifics the hindu religion is wrong, why do you agree on the fact that Prophet Mohammad was mentioned in the scriptures? If they are wrong, lets agree on this by saying that every word that has been stated in the holy book is false as well.
    Yet another question, hypothetically speaking, if in coming years another religion proclaims that its the final religion from GOD, would you convert to it? Let me answer this for you, NO YOU WONT. Its simple facts that GOD is UNKNOWN to all and if was easy to find him/her, none of us out here would be believers anymore. So lets cut the crap about proving who is right or wrong and lets look into proving ourselves as better human beings first and let the almighty take care of the rest.
    Regards and may peace prevail.

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  23. 100% true there were many prophets sent but first prophet is adam its shiva in hindus . They will not accept because their religion is first so we know that our forefathers is adam and noah we must proud to be in india 1 to 10. 1 can be the first but it has no 10. We know that 10 contain one.

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  24. Very good article and connecting lot of fact together. God guide us to understand all human beings.

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  25. Excellent postwith unique content and it is very useful to know about the information based on blogs.
    Religious books

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  26. Great article. Everything rightly said and with full honesty and critical scrutiny. The negative comments posted here are baseless and groundless allegations.

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  27. best research we need more guidance we need more research & need to go more depth. thanks

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  28. while I think the "Manu = Nuh" argument is very feasible considering all the correlation and the nature of oral traditions. I seriously doubt Noah (or the God of Abraham for that matter) had anything to do with the Vedas. I don't know what Vedas you're reading but every time I read them I get overwhelmed with the abhorrent stench of polytheism, It's always "I Laud this deity" or just the sheer amount of times "gods" is used in plural form.

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  29. The ignorant and idiotic writer of this bullshit article doesn't know

    1. Vedas were revealed to several Rishis or ancient sages and Manu had nothing to do with it.

    2. There are several Manus and the current Manu is 7th with 7 more to follow. At the end of each Manvantara Khand-Pralaya or partial destruction follows and a Manu appears to save mankind and set up society again. Current Kaliyuga is only one of 71 Mahayugas in one Manvantara. One Mahayuga is composed of Sat, Treta, Dwapara and kali Yugas. Current Kaliyuga is 28th in 7th Manvantara whose Manu was called Vaivasvata Manu.

    3. Jumbling up things to fit islamic narrative of prophethood on Hinduism is pathetic. If anyone wants to gain a real worldview first they need to appreciate philosophy and mythology of all ancient cultures instead of being driven by pre-conceptions and in this article there is a preconception that India must have a prophet without which religion cannot appear. The fact that Vedas were revealed to several sages smashes this myth to pieces.

    4. Similarities quoted between Islam and Hinduism are not because of Islam being original religion but as Islam borrowed most of the rituals from pre-Islamic Arabian culture which is a fact Muslims have problem accepting.

    5. All Hindu temples dont face East and which do face East is because it is the direction from which Sun rises. Sun is one of the primordial deities in Hinduism which Muslims can never understand. Instead this idiot says that its to face Kaaba. There can be no more ignorant statement but what can you expect from a brainwashed islamic mind.

    6. As per Hindu scriptures, the age of Adharma has begun with starting of this Kaliyuga when original vedic dharma is bound to go in decline along with rise of satanic cults in name of religion. This explains the rise of Islam which has proved to be the greatest satanic cult ever, slaughtering millions of innocents and destroying a number of civilizations in North Africa, a part of Europe and whole of Middle east along with a large part of North India. Countless temples were destroyed by Muslims in India and mosques erected over them to showcase superiority of islam. What kind of sick god commands to show superiority with such wanton destruction, rape, murder and pillaging of people of other faiths. Of course Allah does. In Delhi there is this Quwwat Ul Islam mosque near Qutb Minar which was built by destroying 27 Hindu & Jain temples which was meant as a humiliation to Hindus and Jains looked down upon as lowly. Ghazi campaigns were a common feature under islamic rule in India in which Brahmins were slaughtered and their women raped and taken sex slaves while temples were looted and destroyed. Travel records of Ibn Batuta record the glee with which these Ghazi campaigns were carried out by Muslims to destroy temples and slaughter Hindus.

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  30. Then the author of this article should also accept the fact that prophet mohammed was a devote of Lord Shiva. Hence the shivalinga stone in mecca which is always hidden from cameras.

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  31. Why do you think India need a prophet when we have enlighten peak like Buddha and Mahvira in our bank. Of course Prophet of the Arab and west are reliable but has no higher height compare to the India enlighten master. The time ago 5000 years back India was master of world, people here has Excell in every class and stage. People have been far insightful of spiritualism at the time which was never ever found in Arab and further continent at that time and even right now. People in Arab where wild and barbarian while in India we were seeing the golden age of civilization and spiritualism. I don't say prophet and Messiah are not great but they have no qualities what Buddhas and avatars of India ever had. Prophet was illiterate, born in poor background and country where no height of science and civilization was possible at the time. Buddha, tirtankara and avatar were Kings and Excell in every field. They end up seeking truth and enlighten in far superior level of understanding.

    I am not amaze why Islam and Christianity attracting now India and africa because now India has become a place like 1400 year ago Arab full of crowd, poverty, intolerance.

    Last Darkwasht,
    Please do not compare India Kohinoor with Foreign gems.
    Be happy

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  32. Khurshid Imam don't try to apply your Islam on Hindus. Islam's world view is not the Hindu world view. The Quran is man written by human minds and hands. Hindus don't need a prophet. Prophets are human and are given to flaws as you have admitted the message of your God was corrupted a few times. If it happened before then the Quran itself can be corrupted, it would be illogical not to assume that.
    Hindu religion is accepted as the oldest. That is not in doubt. I say to you to give up Islam and seek the one true faith.

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    1. You guys dont have one truth you have many holy books but only vedas is sent by god and all other books are written by rishies and vedas is totally opposite from hindusm

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  33. This is a very enlightening article. The story of the Great Flood appears in a multitude of cultures and religions. From what I remember, the earliest known mention is from the Sumerian tale of Gilgamesh. Now this is even older than the hindus.

    From my experience up to now, it is useless and a wastage of time to show and convince Hindus of the error of their ways. In fact, the author you quote, Abbe J A. Dubois in his celebrated opus entitled "Hindu manners, customs and ceremonies" states that after 40 years of study of the hindus, "Let the Christian religion be presented to these people under every possible light,..... the time of conversion has passed away, and under existing circumstances there remains no human possibility of bringing it back."

    As per Abbe, the chief cause is the BRAHMINICAL PREJUDICE.... In short, the brahmins will not hear reason whatever you preach to them. Like the jewish rabbis, they are too much steeped in arrogance of self worship to acknowledge God's truth. Just look at the commentators above to gain an idea of their racist, prejudiced and vulgar mindset.

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  34. may i know from where you find this much information

    god

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  35. No, Hindu scripture doesn't talks about Adam and Eve... However some people compare the story of Bhavisya Purana containing name Adam and Havyavati as Adam and Eve and their story sounds pretty much similar. But we can't be sure about stories of Bhavisya Purana because it is supposed that it suffered high interpolation. Even if we consider story of Bhavisya purana as genuine then still Adam and Eve[Havyavati] aren't progenitor of mankind.. They are just progenitor of mlechha dharma [Foreigner religion]. Still if you are interested in that story of Bhavisya Purana, the story goes like this:
    At that time the Kali purusha prayed to Lord Narayana along with his wife. After sometime the Lord apperared to him and said, "This age will be a good time for you. I will fulfil your desire having various kinds of forms. There is a couple named Adama and his wife Havyavati. They are born from Vishnu-kardama and will increase the generations of mlecchas. Saying this, the Lord disappeared. Having great joy the Kali purusha went to Nilacha
    Vyasa said: "Now you hear the future story narrated by Suta Goswami. This is the full story of of Kali-yuga, hearing this you will become satisfied."
    In the eastern side of Pradan city where there is a a big God-given forest, which is 16 square yojanas in size. The man named Adama was staying there under a Papa-Vriksha or a sinful tree and was eager to see his wife Havyavati. The Kali purusha quickly came there assuming the form of a serpent. He cheated them and they disobeyed Lord Vishnu. The husband ate the forbidden fruit of the sinful tree. They lived by eating air with the leaves called udumbara. After they had sons and all of them became mlecchas. Adama's duration of life was nine-hundred and thirty years. He offered oblations with fruits and went to heaven with his wife. His son was named Sveta-nama, and he lived nine-hundred and twelve years. Sveta-nama's son was Anuta, who ruled one-hundred years less than his father. His son Kinasa ruled as much as his grandfather. His son Malahalla ruled eight-hundred ninety five years. His son Virada ruled 160 years. His son Hamuka was devoted to Lord Vishnu, and offering oblations of fruits he achieved salvation. He ruled 365 years and went to heaven with the same body being engaged in mleccha-dharma. For more read here

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  36. Almighty Allah knows best. Thanks for sharing.

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  37. i want to translate it in hindi for hindi belt community with some curtailement. please give me permission.

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  38. We all are from same race of human not animals so our creator is one .sanathan religion is oldest religion with some improvement to come and finally Q uran has cleared all doubts.we hav been send here not eat or sleep and to enjoy but to remember lord(Allah) and glorifying his blessings upon us and to do deeds sothat at the day of judgment we shall be rewarded.Those Who transgressed limits set by Allah shall find there way to He'll.

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  39. LOVE all pray like our prophet did

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  40. You say such a truthful words Those who believed in one God and thier prophets they believed but those who do not believe will not say yes even on the Day of Resurrection -----
    "Allah Messenger (Prophet Muhammad SAW) said -- Noah and his nation will come ( on the Day of Resurrection ) and Allah asked (Noah)
    "Did did you convey the message of God
    He will Reply Yes , O my Lord!"
    The Allah will ask Noah's nation, Did Noah convey my message to you?'
    They will reply, No'; No prophet came to us.'
    The Allah will ask Noah, 'Who will stand a witness for you?'
    He will reply Prophet Muhammad SAW and his followers ( will stand witness for me)
    "Bss baat yahi p khatam ho gyii
    Vo Abb mana krenge or jab bhii mana karenge"
    Allah give hidayat 🙏
    Meri baat ka koy bura mat manna ye sach hh 🙏🙏

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  41. I found your link after 9 yrs when I first read it, was searching for it...thanks to google.

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